"I respect the body. It's quite a marvelous thing. In the next 20 years we'll be quite amazed what we learn about our bodies, our souls, our thoughts."

"And that's what life is about. That when you take the difficulties and the problems, the things that push you down... you want to plant a garden, what do you do? You don't drop things on the surface. You dig down, you get in there. And when we take the pain and the difficulties, and we use them, that's when you get to be holy, to the spirit. And it doesn't come without being open to the pain and the work."